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  1. poncho

    the only other retort for Khota’s question is “Why not?”

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      That might be a little more philosophical than Ror’Ken is capable of, or maybe not, he certainly is a cheery sort of murderer.

      • poncho

        your right on both accounts the retort its self is not just philosophical, its mostly used to give sociopaths in movies, shows, animations, or even here in comics a chance to say as Ror’Ken said here. but most times its used to be philosophical best example is in the movie Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths.

        • GroUser2907
          GroUser2907

          Ahh I haven’t seen any of the Justice League animated movies, are they any good?

          • poncho

            some are and the one I mentioned was rather worth watching but only once in my book here’s a link for scene on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-rl0tfQO9E though Batman Year One and Under the Red Hood I always find my self watching every so often.

          • GroUser2907
            GroUser2907

            Thanks for that dude, I’ll definitely have to check it out. I was keen to watch some of the more recent ones as they have Nathan Fillion as the Green Lantern.

      • Aemi

        Okay now I seem to relate to Ror’ken in this situation, I always seem a little cheery when I can get my murder on, not in real life of course! I’m not that crazy <__>

        • GroUser2907
          GroUser2907

          Hehe, of course not! [for all the FBI agents who might be reading this comments section] 😛

          It does make him a little easier to relate to or maybe just understand, that might be how he views the world, he acts like we would if we were playing a character in a computer game, and knew that there were no consequences for our actions.

          Basically, he just wants to have fun 😀

  2. SpectralTime

    …Wow, really? *That’s* the line you bust out? Bro, you don’t *get* to complain about his lack of originality.

    And, really… I was expecting both of them to be a bit more worked up about this. I mean, if I were Rory, I’d be a bit worried about a dead man showing up to get revenge. And if I were Kohta, face-to-face with the guy who planted a sword in my heart, only now I’m armed (on two different levels!), I wouldn’t be bothering with the pre-fight banter.

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Well to be fair to him he does live in a world without the internet, where seemingly every other forum sig or blog post has that quotation in it :S

      And as for their mood, well Ror’Ken is a sociopath, and considering his actions in the comic he might even have that condition where he is physically incapable of worrying about something, like that main character in Lucky Number Slevin. As for Kohta, well you’re right he should probably be a bit more pissed but I can maybe explain that in two ways. Firstly he’s still in shock, things are not going to plan, he expected to arrive here in time, like the hero, and now it’s clear he has failed and he hasn’t come to terms with it yet, so he’s verbally stalling.

      Secondly he is a Satori Orc, basically a City Orc, they are primarily distinguished from their more savage Wild Orc cousins by their civility, the very worst thing a Satori Orc could do would be to fly into an insane berserker rage. Not that Kohta isn’t capable of that of course, he’s young, headstrong and arrogant a lot of the time, but he’s also very keen to keep that orcish rage side of himself suppressed.

      • SpectralTime

        …I’m not sure sociopath is the right term, considering there *do* seem to be people and things that he cares about. I mean, you yourself mentioned that he likes having sex with his girl and Khali at the same time, but feels a bit miffed that the ladies treat him like a plaything to pass around. If he were a sociopath, he literally couldn’t have that emotion. He’d either like having sex with them, or not, because caring about how someone else treats you for complex emotional reasons takes empathy.

        But, if you just mean that he has severe emotional problems of some kind, well… I get that. Stupid dark elf culture.

        Hmmm. Didn’t know there *was* an “orcish rage” component. I await further informations.

        • GroUser2907
          GroUser2907

          Ahh you’re right I might be using the word Sociopath without it being technically applicable to Ror’Ken. In his relationship with Khali and Ankja he likes having sex with them and is still a little riled by how they treat him, but those concerns and joys are very, very minor and crushed beneath his wild indifference. So it’s not that he is incapable of feeling emotions, it’s just that he blatantly doesn’t care about almost anything. Sure it bothers him slightly that as a male in Dark Elven society he is practically (and possibly even legally) a second class citizen, but he knows that despite the odds he has found himself in a very enviable position.

          Bah, who knows, I’m no psychologist, but maybe he’s more complex emotionally/underneath than a simple label word can describe.

          But yes, all Orcs do have what can be called an Orcish Rage, but that can be a bit stereotypical and complicated. For instance Wild Orcs, those in this setting who are closer to what we normally think what Orcs are like, revel in this side of themselves, and can be quite barbaric as a result. Satori, or ‘City’ Orcs like Kohta meanwhile have suppressed this side of themselves to embrace civilisation, in many of them this inner rage can be quite pronounced, and there are countless tales of great warriors struggling with the rage, and legends about what happens when they succomb to it. But for many Satori orcs it’s so repressed within themselves that they might not ever know its there, and many Satori Priests and Sages who seek a kind of inner peace or tranquility, forever banishing this primal rage from themselves.

          This is the great divide between the two Orc’ish races, one embraces the rage, the other suppresses it. Or alternatively one succombs to it and the other transcends it, I guess it just depends on which side you view it from.

          • SpectralTime

            …Dang. You were right all along. That’s at least on the spectrum.

            It’s always the cute ones, eh?

          • GroUser2907
            GroUser2907

            Yeh it’s kinda hard to be specific, I’m not a psychologist and my knowledge of the field is very limited so it’s hard to be specific, but to put it bluntly, the dude is messed up :S

  3. emek

    Guess what! Elf gona escape and Kohta will be one judged for killing governor! ;D

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Hehe, well that’s certainly one possibility, but that might be a hard thing to do, they’re both in a restricted area around a bloody corpse, either one could get the blame if they are discovered, or maybe even both.

  4. Resari

    >_> …talking about not being original… that’s kind of a lame reason to give for doing bad things man.

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Well it might be for us, but Ror’Ken is… well I don’t want to say Sociopath again, but he definitely has a different way of doing things, and so probably has a different way of thinking. We’ve seen him kill innocents without any remorse, betray and abandon allies simply because it suited him and basically do whatever he wants without any moral restrictions. So he may not be original here, but at least he’s being honest.

  5. Sulux

    there’s a really easy way to make a principled person angry, act like a psychotic jackass. it was nice knowing you Ror’Ken.

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      He certainly does seem to be stoking Kohta’s righteous anger, whether knowingly or not, so maybe he wont be in the comic for long after all :S

      • Sulux

        It reminds me of someone griefing “for teh Lolz [sic.]”. there’s something particularly enraging about someone making your life worse for fun. And knowing Kohta he won’t let it slide.

        • GroUser2907
          GroUser2907

          Huh, that’s a good point, and oddly it makes me dislike Ror’Ken a little more just for that association :[

  6. Marcus

    *nods* good answer.

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Hehe, it might even make for an inspirational poster or meme 😀

      • Marcus

        Actually, it’s generally the response Q from Star Trek has for why he does what he does (specifically in the Borg DVD game)

        • GroUser2907
          GroUser2907

          Ahh well if it’s good enough for John de Lancie, then it’s good enough for me 😀

  7. firewolf216

    Hehe very good speech ror ken of which is decidedly the most wicked class of the series and it still has a head start on the Khota group.

    I hope it will again succeed in beating the orc spinning out the window with a levitation spell or other gadget. ^^

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Hehe, well it still be a bit early to count Ror’Ken as the victor, there is after all a very pissed and armed Orc in between him and the exit :S

  8. Grimmox

    Lol! sooo used my excuse for everything I do! both good and evil! ‘Because I can!’ that and ‘I do this, because I love you’

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Those two phrases are all you ever really need to get through life 😀

  9. Breslau

    Go, Princess Rorita!!!

    And seriously: he indeed show syndromes of sociopathy (inability of understanding people’s feelings) but sociopaths have usually high abilities of manipulation (and he seems to play with Ankja feelings)

    • Breslau

      Sorry for a bit chaotical message. I was in hurry

      • GroUser2907
        GroUser2907

        That’s cool dude, it’s fine 😀

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Ahh then it might be that he’s less like a sociopath then, for instance he does adversely affect other characters, like his relationships with Rakesh or Ankja, but he’s not consciously manipulating them for his own ends, it’s just him doing what he wants when he wants, or even with who he wants and not caring what happens.

      So that might make him less a sociopath and more an, asshole I think?

  10. Prophet

    Some elves just want to see the world burn

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Hehe, aww I hadn’t thought about it like that, but yeh, that’s a pretty good summary of who Ror’Ken is like 😀

  11. firewolf216

    To enter quietly in the hall of the governor before the orc without alerting the guard the gate . Ror’ken probably had to go through the roof or window by climbing the wall or flying with a magic item.

    Run away and let the samurai being accused of the crime would surely not a problem for a drow assassin gifted as him.

    The governor died Dark Elves seem on track to achieve their targets , killing ror’ken duel would not bring much to Khota . He would become the main enemy drow and would then spend his life to flee the vengeance of Rakesh and Ankja .

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Actually Ror’Ken got in the same way that Kohta did, through the front door 😀

      And yeh you’re right there, the dirty deed has been done, killing Ror’ken wont bring the Governor back, still what else is Kohta going to do? let him just get away?

  12. lena

    To me Ror’ken seems gentle and calm, but he ia not at all like that. I wonder will he stay loyal to the dark elf general and to the mission or he would change his mind about all.

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      I don’t think he’s the sort of person to change his mind, or even commit to anything. Most of the time he does whatever he likes, and the rest of the time he does whatever is best for his short term goals, which is generally to survive at any cost.

  13. “And here you are doing more evil” XD
    Kohta, you are so bad at speech.

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Oh he certainly has to brush up on his speechifying if he thinks he’s going to pull off this whole ‘hero’ thing 😛

  14. Charlemagne

    I will once again say, Damn Dark Elf Assassins

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      They are a bothersome lot.

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Hehe, classic mistake 😀

      • yah but its all I could think about for some reason when I posted :P. Also can’t wait for 2

        • GroUser2907
          GroUser2907

          So it’s been confirmed? well that’s good news 😀

  15. Zaid

    Not to be mean but was Ror’ken always like this or is this a new development? I wouldn’t be mean about you deciding to take his character down another route, I’m sure you’ve got a good reason for it down the line, but I don’t remember the guy being dickish/

    • GroUser2907
      GroUser2907

      Oh he’s always been a bit dickish, he just hasn’t had the chance to show it off, having always been in the company of people superior to him, like Khali, Ankja or Rakesh, or with people he’s supposed to be depending on, like Jaskill, who he still left to die without a second thought when he bolted from the failed IronBreaker op.

      It might seem that his character is changing but really it’s just that we’re learning more about him. At least I hope it is :S

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